tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post3067620724429533543..comments2023-12-04T21:32:03.337+08:00Comments on ASPAN ALIAS: DEB gagal - kerana digagalkanAspan Aliashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01320817377684646969noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-27375199754724162562010-08-30T22:11:36.807+08:002010-08-30T22:11:36.807+08:00DEB gagal Aspan? Saya dan mungkin beribu-ribu Mela...DEB gagal Aspan? Saya dan mungkin beribu-ribu Melayu lain mungkin hidup dalam zaman Mahathir yang begitu asing dari Aspan. <br /><br />Setahu saya, zaman TDMlah dengan cara berani menubuhkan sekolah Sains berasarama penuh untuk menempatkan pelajar-pelajar Melayu miskin tapi cerdik. Bila JKR lambat menyiapkan sekolah tersebut, sekolah berasrama penuh ditubuhkan tapi kemudahan meminjam sekolah yang sedia-ada, Bila guru sains Melayu kurang, TDM lah yang mengusahakan guru guru Sains dari Indonesia.<br /><br />Lihatlah hasilnya, beribu ribu Melayu telah berjaya merubahkan sosio ekonomi mereka melalui pelajaran.Ini adalah hakikat, Aspan! <br /><br />Bila pulak TDM menghapuskan tongkat.. Setahu saya, TDM mengesyorkan saja, tapi orang Melayu sendiri yang menentangnya.<br /><br />Kes Mirzan, dah banyak kali dibincangkan, banyak kali Aspan kata 'bail-out'. Setahu saya, Mirzan ada option nak jual kepada saudagar Singapura tapi akhirnya dijual kapada Petronas dengan harga yang murah.Pembelian ini menguntungkan Petronas, a good business deal! kalau jual kepada saudagar Singapura, apa pula kata Aspan ye! suka ke Aspan melihat syarikat ni terlepas ke syarikat luar?<br /><br />Tak usahlah Aspan marah kepada Daim. Saya rasa Tun Daim hanya melaksanakan apa yang telah diputuskan oleh Kongres Ekonomi Melayu Bumiputera yang nak melihat beberapa kerat Melayu "Billionaire". Tak usahlah dengki kalau kita tak terpilih.Syukurlah dengan apa yang ada!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-52229775612954985892010-08-30T21:11:00.382+08:002010-08-30T21:11:00.382+08:00Bro Aspan,
1. Saya bersama-sama sdra menyambut ke...Bro Aspan,<br /><br />1. Saya bersama-sama sdra menyambut kemerdekaan ini dengan ingatan kepada UMNO lama yang meraih kemerdekaan buat negara tercinta. Itulah ingatan saya setiap kali menyambut hari kemerdekaan sejak tahun 1988.<br /><br />2. Begitu juga setiap tahun apabila menyambut hari penubuhan UMNO lama yang kita tahu telah sengaja dimatikan oleh TDM kerana kepentingan politik peribadinya mengatasi kepentingan dan perjuangan bangsa melayu.<br /><br /><br />bat8bat8https://www.blogger.com/profile/07719974079232163981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-76580270876440591552010-08-30T18:42:17.914+08:002010-08-30T18:42:17.914+08:00Quiet Despair,
Tomorrow I will be celebrating Mer...Quiet Despair,<br /><br />Tomorrow I will be celebrating Merdeka Day, with full memory of the actual UMNO which brought the existence of Federation of Malaya in Feb 1948 and our independence of the country.<br /><br />The current UMNO is much younger then my youngest son. This UMNO had no role in achieving our independence.<br /><br />Just to refresh yr memory.Aspan Aliashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01320817377684646969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-74198212203741980822010-08-30T18:31:44.503+08:002010-08-30T18:31:44.503+08:00Asalam tuan aspan, ...Asalam tuan aspan, Tak perlulah kita bincang dasar deb atau nep, mungkin semua dak maklum dan mengerti tentang deb. Maklamat dan tuju hala memang bagus dan kemas, namun perlaksanaan penoh dgn kejahilan. kegagalan deb segala berpunca org melayu dan bumiputra, umno. <br />Sebenar rakyat sudah menjadi jemu dgn dsar yg tidak konsisten yg di bentang oleh pak menteri kita, najib dgn wan malaysia, mohidin dgn dasar pendidikan nya, kali2 ada pak menteri baru, ada sahaj yg berubah, rakyat pun naik bingong, sepatut dasar yg sedia ada di adjust sikit, mungkin perubahan sesuaisana. Tuan aspan, betullah kata org umno gigi nya sudah tua. kalau nak gigitpun tak tajam lagi, Apa tidaknya hari2 main gendang perkauman dan ugama ? Idea sudah tumpul, ibrahim ali pun sama, t.m. sama. sampai bila kita main kan isu perkauman da ugama utk nak pulangkan sokongan kpn umno.Kita dah bagi peluang selama 53 tahun dah utk berjuang menaik ekonomi org bumi, yg naik bumijuga tapi mesti bin datuk bin tan sri, bin tun dan sebagainya. Ok belum pernahpun tuan aspan bagi pandangan malaysia akan datang, dan melayu akan dtg?? Semua kaum akan datang??? Baiklah seandai trsungkur dalam GE13, apa yang mungkin berlaku ? Kita dah tahu umno dgn agenda sempit, semantara pr memberi harapan. Rakyat semakin sedar dan berilmu dan tahu yg mana kaca dan intan. dengan ilmu dan maklumat yg ada, adalah satu kemungkinan besar pakatan rakyat akan naik tahta.???? Adakah umno bn dapat menerima hakikat kekalahan?? atau terjundgn pemerontakan? semua ada kemungkinan, ok kita tunggu dan lihat. Dalam pakatan rakyat ramai tokoh yg hebat2, kalau tak hebat tak kan masuk keluar penjara? perjuangan mereka telah menampakan bunga kejayaan. Pak menteri yg kita kini, nampak tak ada om.........., yu tahu sebab jawatan dan pangkat yg ada undi belian. Maksud nya ongkos harus ada pak, kalau tak ada ghak bisa naik atas. perkara seumpama ini sudah menjadi budaya kpd bn umno. Kemerdekaan yg kunjung tiba akan menjelma, perjuangan org yg terdahuku harus di kenanga jasa, tampa perjuangan mereka mungkin belum merdeka. Soal baik buruk selepas kita merdeka harus menjadi pengajaran yg sangat tinggi nilai nya, harap bn umno dan pr ambil aktibar . sekian tq. maju jaya.mohttp://httpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-66248398038307735012010-08-30T18:25:59.117+08:002010-08-30T18:25:59.117+08:00Quiet Despair,
Today's UMNO wasn't in exi...Quiet Despair,<br /><br />Today's UMNO wasn't in existence when we achieved independence. The first President is still living my boy.<br /><br />LeeLeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-79324837095687093772010-08-30T17:31:35.153+08:002010-08-30T17:31:35.153+08:00There won't be a Merdeka we are celebrating to...There won't be a Merdeka we are celebrating tomorrow without UMNO.<br />So for once, please write something good about UMNO.<br />Give credit where its due.<br />UMNO is about successes too and not only failures which you are fond of portraying.Quiet Despairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-42252421562363357672010-08-30T15:37:11.353+08:002010-08-30T15:37:11.353+08:00nick,
I have been following aspan's thinking ...nick,<br /><br />I have been following aspan's thinking and I do accept that his openness in his opinion is well intended.<br /><br />With yr substantiating argument make this blog slowly but surely to become the references of many people who want to understand all issues with real and accurate factual argument.<br /><br />Please continue yr participation in this blog.danialnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-41493864037152812302010-08-30T15:12:54.487+08:002010-08-30T15:12:54.487+08:00You asked "So nick, what do we do?"
Bro...You asked "So nick, what do we do?"<br /><br />Bro, isn't the answer obvious? Throw BN/UMNO out lah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-7763567771381423572010-08-30T15:09:33.226+08:002010-08-30T15:09:33.226+08:00Nick,
I must salute you for a well written piece....Nick,<br /><br />I must salute you for a well written piece. This is in essence why the NEP FAILED. <br /><br />In short, the ruling Malay elite betrayed the majority Malays/non-Malays to enrich themselves. They only give crumbs to the rakyat. They are the real traitors. <br /><br />But sadly many Malays are still obsessed with TDM and the NEP. If you do the same things repeatedly and expecting a diferrent result everytime, then you are mad.<br /><br />Bro Aspan,<br /><br />I think many UMNO top leaders knows what needs to be done. But sadly these leaders are mostly insincere, self-serving, dishonest, in denial, greedy and corrupt. <br /><br />Put simply : there is no political will to change and do the right thing for the good of the country. And I blame TDM for inculcating this bad culture for the past 22 years especially after 1987 when he almost lost to TRH. Under the above circumstances, is it wrong for the rakyat to vote PR for a change? UMNO is not carved in stone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-26396147751412373422010-08-30T12:46:00.273+08:002010-08-30T12:46:00.273+08:00nick,
I feel so fascinated knowing that you help m...nick,<br />I feel so fascinated knowing that you help me to elucidate what i meant in all those writing about the abuse of power especially towards the tail end of NEP implementation.<br /><br />Of course your understanding of the issue makes you very clear in your explanation. <br /><br />As you have rightly said, NEP was abused and bastardized by the Malay elites who took away what were meant for the ordinary Malays who needed it very much.<br /><br />The abuse over the 52 billion allocation for the Malays by the Malay elite was certain to happen in from of Mahathir's naked eyes but as I have said earlier Mahathir had no passion for this policy as he had planned all he wated to see to happen while he was in power.<br /><br />In any implementation of any policy the honesty of the implementers was of utmost importance. Implementation Co-ordination Unit (ICU) of the PM's department was the most important department which was so focused in wanting to see the policy was implemented in proper and acurate manner.<br /><br />Everyone was all out to see the policy got its way to the target, and that was why when this set of leaders and implementers were still there, the figure went up to 18.2 percent and incidentally I was personally with the figures day in day out as part of my duties while in PNB.<br /><br />BUT the marginal increase of the figure was so negligible once the 'great Daim' took over the mantle of implementing the policy in June 1984. In 1990 the figure was still stuck at below 19 percent.<br /><br />So there is a different kind of result with 2 sets of leaders and implementers. TR was the man who initiated a lot of policy that the cabinet decided and all went well while he was there.<br /><br />BUT the set which succeeded him was all out to divert and bastardized the holistic policy.<br /><br />So nick, what do we do?Aspan Aliashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01320817377684646969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-31549556674744937052010-08-30T09:27:40.572+08:002010-08-30T09:27:40.572+08:00Tak usah la nak cakap pasal Hak Melayu. Harta Masj...Tak usah la nak cakap pasal Hak Melayu. Harta Masjid pun mereka kebas.. tengok aja tanah masjid di JPJ Danau Kota. Mereka beri pada Mah Sing untuk buat Mix Development. Semua orangnya melayu buat kertas kerja. JKIM/MUIWP/Datuk Bandar/UMNO dan libatkan Agong dah Setuju serah pada Mah Sing. Ini semua dah makan suap. Tanah 5 hektar buat hostel sekangkang kera. <br /><br />Jika perlu saya ada semua dokumen.<br /><br />Melayu KecewaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-34207747609454081452010-08-30T08:36:05.203+08:002010-08-30T08:36:05.203+08:00Tuan.
Kemarin saya berpeluang menonton PM Singapo...Tuan. <br />Kemarin saya berpeluang menonton PM Singapore beri ucapan hari Merdeka Singapore. Bermula dengan bahasa Malaysia lebih baik dari MCA/gerakan/Dap. Amat bagus dia jelaskan hala tuju dan permasalah rakyat. Bila bercakap pasal tokoh2 terbilang di tunjuk gambar TPM Rajaratnam/TPM Goh sdgkan kita tahu bapa dia Lee Kuan Yew banyak berjasa TAPI di tak cakap pun. BUKAN macam NAjib Cerita pasal bapa dia. Anak2 daia termasuk Nazir cakap dpn Cina dia pun pendatang dan BEB tak perlu... Bodoh punya anak * * * <br /><br />Anak Suadara Yusuf IshakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-53479683291136078882010-08-30T08:30:17.214+08:002010-08-30T08:30:17.214+08:00Continued..2 of 2
It begs the question "Whe...Continued..2 of 2<br /><br /><br />It begs the question "Where did the money go during the 22 years?" TDM knows and the ruling elite (read UMNO top leaders) knows but many of the malays (read Perkasa member) never even comprehend or realised its significance and thus some of those uninformed Malays still pine for the NEP and the potential that it might have. Sadly, they failed or in actuality did not want to admit that the policy was hijacked and the money was stolen in broad day light and in front of their eyes. They are in denial to the fact that the malay leaders are the reason for NEP failure and not just any leader. To be specific it’s the UMNO leadership who are the main cause for the total failure of NEP (which means that Ibrahim Ali is party to the failure too). And that is why majority of Malays (those outside Perkasa) felt incredulous for the call to reinstate a fail policy (NEP) and no less that call is coming from Ibrahim Ali and TDM, who share a large part of the blame for its failure. <br /><br />Up till now, they (UMNO and Perkasa members) are still denying the fact that their leaders (not the non malays) are responsible for the failure and the hijacking of the NEP. And because of the denial syndrome, many still insist and most of them falsely equate a policy to be the same as a right. And at the same time (behind their back) their (false) leader (the culprit who cause NEP total failure) were laughing all the way to the bank with the bounty that was supposedly meant for them. I pity those Malays who still are still in denial and who are still docilely subservient to those unscrupulous and immoral thieves they call leaders. <br /><br />Instead of shouting and foaming at the mouth calling for the preservation of NEP, those malays should analyze the NEP in detail (the weaknesses and the abuses). Find out those culprit responsible for the swindling of hundred of billion and hang those leaders to dry. Then propose a new policy or guidelines or even a better procedure that not only take care of the majority poor malays but at the same time protect the need of the poor non malays Malaysian as well. If you want other races to respect the need of the malay then we, the malay need to respect the need of other Malaysian citizen (the poor) too. Being magnanimous will endear the non malay to the malay cause much better than a raised “keris” or a police report with the removal of citizenship being the sole aim.<br /><br />Frequent call to revoke the citizenship of people from other races or insulting our fellow citizen by asking them to go back to their ancestral nation is not only against the malay culture , it is even against the basic tenet of justice and freedom espoused by our religion. What happen to these so called malay (muslim??)warrior? They fight for “ghanimah” ONLY and no longer believe in truth, justice and fairness (Islam)? May GOD open up their eyes and let them see the truth. <br /><br />May GOD bless Malaysia and its people.<br /><br />Nick.nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12798444688989301278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-45367870324392113682010-08-30T08:26:38.945+08:002010-08-30T08:26:38.945+08:00Aslm Sir,
Wikipedia define the word "policy...Aslm Sir,<br /><br />Wikipedia define the word "policy" as "a principle or rule to guide decisions and achieve rational outcome(s). The term is not normally used to denote what is actually done, this is normally referred to as either procedure or protocol. Whereas a policy will contain the 'what' and the 'why', procedures or protocols contain the 'what', the 'how', the 'where', and the 'when'. One cannot describe the NEPolicy any better than something that only have the "What and Why" without (intentionally or unintentionally) the existence of the "how, the where and more importantly when". <br /><br />Being a policy (and not a protocol or even procedures) NEP was open to abuse (and it was abused, horrendously at that!) Interpretation, implementation and control of NEP was hijacked by those who sees the potential of NEP as a tool of discrimination, oppression and worse "carte blance" robbery of the nation's treasury!<br /><br />NEP by definition is just a policy introduced by the government of the day with the purpose of poverty eradication of all races (which by virtue of being a policy has a shelf life and life expectancy) and thus it is wrong and malicious for anyone to associate or to impose it's existence as a valid progression born out of a constitutional right or even of a "social contract". Anyone who dares to imply that a policy or any policy has the same status as a constitutional clause is simply lying with the intention of pursuing an agenda that is most obviously contrary to the spirit and soul of our constitution. <br /><br />NEP was thought to be a good policy (for the eradication of poverty for all races) at its inception but a policy is only as good as its implementation. Going by the numbers provided by the government, it is evident that NEP is largely a failure (i.e RM52 Billions allocated for the Malays under NEP, most of those funds when missing, misappropriated and even horded by the ruling malay elite). And to make matter worse, the large segment of poor and destitute Malays were left holding the blame and the disgrace of being called "malas", tamak, boros and ungrateful, whereas in reality, those unfortunate segment of the malay society never received or even smell a single sen of the RM52billions fortune.<br /><br />From the inception of NEP (Tun Razak as PM) until Tun Hussein resignation, the malays control of the economic pie was thought to be at 18% BUT even until the end of TDM rule (another 22 years went past), the aim of 30% (the magic number) was never achieved. In fact during TDM rule, the 18% holding of the malay only increased a pathetic 1% (1% increase over 22 years is ridiculous, even a snail can move faster and further than that!). <br /><br /><br />Continue..1 of 2nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12798444688989301278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-80678177227239135132010-08-30T08:05:05.717+08:002010-08-30T08:05:05.717+08:00Sedangkan sungai lagikan berubah, Takkanlah lah ki...Sedangkan sungai lagikan berubah, Takkanlah lah kita tidak berubah.<br />Kalau UMNO kuat pun Rosmah yang beruntung. Kita tak kemana juga.<br /><br /><br />marlon brandoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-48246345907645845652010-08-30T08:03:46.755+08:002010-08-30T08:03:46.755+08:00tuan Aspan,
Tuan JANGAN marah sangat2 pada Mahat...tuan Aspan,<br /><br /><br />Tuan JANGAN marah sangat2 pada Mahathir.. ya lah TuaN.. Lepas PRU 13 kita lantik TRH jadi PM.. Lepas tu kita rombak dasar menolong MElayu.<br />tuan pun skarang dah ok...Kah kah kah ..<br /><br /><br />Selayang..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3278896453863897915.post-64199341772642407862010-08-30T02:48:12.377+08:002010-08-30T02:48:12.377+08:00Saya sokong bahawa DEB gagal.
Generasi Melayu Isl...Saya sokong bahawa DEB gagal.<br /><br />Generasi Melayu Islam terdahulu yang diberi kuasa dan ada pengaruh keseluruhannya mengambil peluang untuk kepentingan diri sendiri, tidak untuk memperkembangkan untuk generasi Melayu Islam akan datang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com